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US military asks for help to find missing F-35 fighter jet after ‘mishap’ sees pilot eject
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2023
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I'm confused why they don't know why the pilot ejected, can't they ask him, is he unconscious, does the plane not send back telemetry data?
Also it's in the lake, it's obviously in the lake because it was anywhere else would be fireball. So what the hell is the public going to do, turn up with a massive metal detector?
There are so many questions this story raises and none of them are answered.
The reason the pilot ejected is unknown to the publication, not the military.
Also, it looks like the entire article is based on a boilerplate tweet informing the public that an investigation is underway, everybody's safe, and if you have information please contact them.
If you want to write a click-bait article based on no information, this is how you do it.
Planes can and often do land themselves without pilots on board. It's not a graceful setdown, but it's far from guaranteed to be a fireball. They just gradually lose altitude until they reach the ground, which if it is sufficiently flat, they then scuff across until they come to a stop.
Not how it works for jets, where losing your engine is pretty much a guaranteed crash.
Regular (e.g. passenger) planes have massive wings that work with the air to keep the plane in the air efficiently, at the cost of maneuverability.
That's assuming the engines went bad.
"Planes often land gracefully without pilots on board"
Doubt a jet would do that, with or without an engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber
Unless, like you said, they lose one or more engines, because military jets generally don't have great glide ratios.
Most new jets are fly by wire (f35 is one of these, where as the link you posted was about an aircraft which was not), they are inherently aerodynamically unstable, below a certain speed it's just gonna stall and crash not glide to the ground. We use computers to manage the instability as the instability aids in maneuverability. Passenger planes and the like are not designed like this, so they can, in theory, just glide down, but the glide slope is what will determine if it's gonna be a soft or deadly landing.
Yeah but they're going to hit some bumpy ground or a tree or a car or a cow or a house or something. It's not exactly a flat landscape up there