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[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You quote me saying Russians have fascists in their government and military, something I sent you articles demonstrating that you didnt even bother to read, and then have the audacity to pretend like I owe you more research and need to prove a claim I never made? Get outta here with that nonsense.

You never managed to demonstrate that Ukraine is run by Nazis, nor that it is even a "systemic problem". You just showed that like many countries, Ukraine has an ultra right nationalist party that failed to grab power, and idiot Neo-Nazis. Which I said should be fought against at every level... In every country... Including Ukraine... Yet you resort to another personal attack calling me a Nazis sympathizer.

Funny thing is, I liked your meme, I agreed with the point you were making, and had you come at me with the intention to demonstrate Ukraine isn't some saint country without problems, we would have found common ground. No country is, and often times the problems of an underdog country are overlooked to avoid appearing like one is supporting a larger warmongering country.

But because I rejected a simple, all or nothing lie about the country, you instead felt the need to move goals posts, strawman my points, and fling personal insults.

Do you think lying, exaggerating, and attacking people will benefit your point in anyway? Do you think strawmanning points and moving goalposts will lead to a deeper mutual understanding? Or are you just so angry that you want the fight, and there is no point beyond that?

Honestly man, I feel kind of bad for you. Good luck, I hope you can find some joy in your life.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

You quote me saying Russians have fascists in their government and military, something I sent you articles demonstrating that you didnt even bother to read, and then have the audacity to pretend like I owe you more research and need to prove a claim I never made? Get outta here with that nonsense.

You never showed any evidence for this claim.

You never managed to demonstrate that Ukraine is run by Nazis, nor that it is even a “systemic problem”.

I have, but you ignored that, and no serious person would deny it. Even Ukrainians don't deny this

Do you think lying, exaggerating, and attacking people will benefit your point in anyway?

Should ask yourself that very question. Nobody is moving any goal posts on you. Maybe read up a bit on how took power in Ukraine after the coup.

Or are you just so angry that you want the fight, and there is no point beyond that?

Projecting much?

Honestly man, I feel kind of bad for you. Good luck, I hope you can find some joy in your life.