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[SOLVED] Will Linux Phones ever become commercially viable and decrease to a price point of 200-400 USD? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Owell1984@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Don't say, hey android has Linux in it, yeah no, idc, I want to know how far we are from buying a Linux phone at a price point of 200 USD.

A Linux phone is one which is built completely on Linux, uses Linux apps and most important has a terminal.

I don't want a Linux Phone for privacy, although that's a great reason, but I want it for the freedom it provides me. Hell, I don't care if Android itself comes with a terminal and has similar features to Linux, I just want a Terminal which can install apps, where I can write commands and it will execute it. Complete Control on my phone and how it behaves is what I want.

I want to tell it when to sleep, when not to sleep, when to boot, when to edit a file and how, when to take a screenshot and what to do with it and where to save it, etc, etc. I hope you get the idea.

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[–] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Before the rise of Android and ios I'd have said it was possible, but the goal posts have shifted pretty far. Unless something backed by a corporate entity or government rises Up, it's a no. A chromeos type thing for smartphone is not going to happen for mass market, because there is already Android.

Discounting Android, the last mile of what a smartphone is capable of can not be accomplished in Foss manner, without end to end verified OS images and some kind of secure enclave for banking and "security" features, carriers and banks are not going to get on board any more. Convenience features like DRM video streaming, casting also probably are not achievable either

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We do banking with general purpose computers. How do you figure banking will be a sticking point?

[–] gnuplusmatt@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things like androidpay/apple pay type functions require a chain of security checks, on Android it's levels of safety net. some banking apps require similar

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ive been on Graphene OS for a few months now and can confirm that banking apps work, but Google Wallet does not. One of my banking apps required me to toggle off hardened malloc in favor of Android's standard malloc though, which definitely had me raising an eyebrow.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

If there’s one thing I’ve learned about banks it’s that they were still using ie 8 when nobody else was.

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