this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
634 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

37630 readers
238 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 128 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (69 children)

Free speech is good and must be protected, that's clear. But it should not be virtually limitless. The US played a major role sorting out the negative consequences of the Weimar republic, which did not contain fascist ideology, which then (edit: among other things ofc) lead to WW2.

It still baffles my mind how the US cannot see that tolerating the intolerant must inevitably lead to an intolerant and possibly facist society.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Free speech is good and must be protected

I agree, but Twitter has nothing to do with free speech. Period. It's not like the government is going around throwing people in prison for being racist fucks on Twitter. Twitter can moderate content if they want to. If they don't want to moderate content they don't have to as long as the material isn't illegal.

I don't know why people keep thinking this has anything to do with the first amendment at all. Twitter is not public, not even close.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I agree, but Twitter has nothing to do with free speech.

Twitter positions itself as the Internet's public square, and free speech certainly does apply in an old-fashioned offline public square, so yeah, Twitter kinda does have something to do with free speech. Don't seek power if you don't want the responsibility it comes with.

[–] ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how it works, what you are talking about is often called freeze peach.

Until Twitter can fine you or lock you up for saying the wrong thing or exercise prior restraint over all your expression, it's not a free speech issue.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By positioning itself as the Internet's public square, Twitter seeks a monopoly over public discourse. If it is successful, then yes, it can exercise prior restraint over virtually all of your expression.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It can succeed in that endeavor the moment I become unemployable. I'm not making an account there, never will, and I will die on this hill.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (65 replies)