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Former President Trump criticized the judge presiding over his 2020 election case, just days after she warned him against making any “inflammatory statements” that could intimidate witnesses or prejudice the jury pool.

In a statement posted overnight on Truth Social, Trump called U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan “highly partisan” and “very biased & unfair.”

“She obviously wants me behind bars,” he added.

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 149 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's calling the court's bluff. I'm afraid it'll work. They should hold him in contempt and put in in jail, pending trial. I don't believe they will.

[–] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

As I understand it, knowing that throwing him in jail in contempt of court would likely set off riots, her threat to him for interfering in the process was to speed up the trial. Considering his only real defense is pushing conviction until after the election, I think Trump will soon learn the meaning of “the right to a speedy trial.”

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[–] snooggums@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago

Good to know that threats of violence are effective in suppressing justice.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Hope those charges get witness tampering added on

[–] Plaid_Kaleidoscope@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm torn, because I think that incitement would bring about the end of the trump era much more quickly, as it'll get put down hard. But I also don't want to advocate violence or for stupid people to get hurt for no reason other than their ignorance.

[–] flipht@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Ignorance has been out the window for a decade. These people knowingly engaged in falsehoods long enough to convince themselves they're right, and I am sick of giving them a pass as if they're just dumb, poorly informed, unable to find alternatives to their hate rhetoric, etc.

At a certain point, it's malice. The saying about not attributing to malice what can be explained by ignorance is for situations *where all else is equal." We are beyond that point.

Throw the book at him. Let them riot and ruin their own shithole counties, or let them try to drive to big cities to attack them, and then throw the book at them too. I'm done accepting responsibility for the actions of these people, who have been given countless opportunities to not be assholes.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Ignorance punishes itself every day. Yes we should try to prevent it, but Facebook will build a bigger idiot.

[–] 2d4_bears@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

It’s not just ignorance. There’s a lot of malice, too.

[–] bdiddy@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

we have the worlds most advanced, trained, and funded army. Lets let them riot..Lets follow up with force and throw them all in jail.

We can't let the justice system bow to the threat of violence.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, both sides have a right to a speedy trial. The prosecution, and the citizens they represent, have been waiting three and a half years already.

[–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@mercano @wrath-sedan

Simply because of the complexity of it all. I mean it's never happened before so the DOJ and state justice dept's had to triple-check that each and every "i" was dotted and "t" was crossed. Never mind the millions of pages of evidence that had be collated, then backed up from other sources.

It is mind-boggling it's only been 3.5 years!

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It can take a year and a half to convict a mass shooter caught red-handed.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then let there be riots. The man needs his due.

[–] tdgoodman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s why there’s an Insurrection Act.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right? This whole "we can't punish criminals because other criminals might engage in criminal behavior" attitude is mystifying to me. What ever happened with not negotiating with terrorists as a national policy?

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is very odd, someone was claiming we should have let him win the other day because this would have been less dangerous. That is so fucked up. Appeasement is almost never a viable long-term solution is politics and geo-politics. The best time to deal with an abusive force is yesterday, not pulling the Band-Aid early is just making things worse. They will riots anyway, unless he turns America into autocracy, only at this point we won't have to worry about riots.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It is very odd, someone was claiming we should have let him win the other day because this would have been less dangerous.

Anyone saying that is either a shill or a coward, and neither are people we should listen to. Our grandparents and great grandparents didn't sacrifice everything in WWII just for us to allow fucking Nazis to waltz into power uncontested.

[–] matter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The very scenario that quote came from was one of... Extensive, and disastrous, negotiation with terrorists. So, not much has changed.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There won't be any riots when he goes to jail. There will be ten dumb fat people nobody gives a fuck about that show up with their Trump colors, and if they fuck around they will end up in jail with Trump.

[–] venusenvy47@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read somewhere that the order of "locking him up" could be appealed extensively and would be an effective delay tactic for him. I think that is why the DC judge wants to speed things up in response to this behavior.

[–] CheezyWeezle@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

If you mean that he can appeal a contempt charge, that is technically true, but the appeal for that would take place after the main trial and would not prevent him from being held in detention until then.

He can appeal from jail.