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Is Radicale the way forward? (www.cloudron.io)

submitted 2 months ago by trilobite@lemmy.ml to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?

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[–] ace@lemmy.ananace.dev 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've been hoping to find a non-PHP alternative to Nextcloud for a while, but unfortunately I've yet to find one which supports my base requirements for the file storage.

Due to some quirks with my setup, my backing storage consists of a mix of local folders, S3 buckets, SMB/SFTP mounts (with user credential login), and even an external WebDav server.
Nextcloud does manage such a thing phenomenally, while all the alternatives I've tested (including a Radicale backed by rclone mounts) tend to fall completely to pieces as soon as more than one storage backend ends up getting involved, especially when some of said backends need to be accessed with user-specific credentials.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Owncloud infinite scale is a rewrite of owncloud(=nextcloud) in go, it supports local, nfs and S3 mounts. Change the smb share to nfs and it might fit you

Disadvantages are:

All the plugins need to be rewritten, so if you need some extra feature, it's going to be missing
They got acquired by a company that sells an expensive alternative for corporations (RIP? Who is paying millions to maintain a free alternative/competitor?)
Documentation is inferior, community is much smaller

[–] ace@lemmy.ananace.dev 2 points 2 months ago

I've been looking at the rewrite of Owncloud, but unfortunately I really do need either SMB or SFTP for one of the most critical storage mounts in my setup.
I don't particularly feel like giving Owncloud a win either, they've not been behaving in a particularly friendly manner for the community, and their track record with open core isn't particularly good, so I really don't want to end up with a decent product that then steadily mutilates itself to try and squeeze money out of me.

The Owncloud team actually had a stand at FOSDEM a couple of years back, right across from the Nextcloud team, and they really didn't give me much confidence in the project after chatting with them. I've since heard that they're apparently not going to be allowed to return again either, due to how poorly they handled it.