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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (29 children)

An obligation? Is there proof of that? That's a pretty incendiary accusation.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (22 children)

They're owned by the CCP (and before you say they're not, the ByteDance C-suite is basically all current Chinese citizens and the headquarters is in Beijing).

Businesses and people do not have rights in the way most westerners are used to. Assume anything out of China or generally owned by Chinese companies is a direct arm of the CCP ... because even if it isn't today, the CCP can unilaterally throw down an order from the top and take control of the company/have them do whatever they want or the leaders replaced.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (21 children)

So are American companies that are basically all Americans in the C-Suite owned by the US Government?

Even if what you were saying was true, the common sense approach is to ban the trading of data internationally. Then TikTok can tell Beijing to pound sand if they tried anything. Instead we have this fear mongering racist bullshit being touted.

[–] OftenWrong@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh you silly! The American corporations ARE the government at this point. But your point is valid either way. I don't think it's just about racism though. I think they want our data back in the US market. None of our corporate overlords can dip their greedy little fingers into TikTok data and that is very upsetting for them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm at a loss as to how people are buying this. They're being asked to support this bill on less than zero evidence, just reporters breathlessly repeating hypothetical stuff. It's just so obviously a called hit by our political donor class.

[–] OftenWrong@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's because they've just decided they hate it/it's just full of dancing teenagers for years now and nothing will ever change their minds. Which is wild because if it ever was that I never saw it and I've been on it for like 5-6 years at least. Everyone just bought into our gov saying they're worried about propaganda/security when my page is mostly filled with memes, gaming stuff, gardening, recipes, cats, news, and now a bunch of people pissed off about the ban.

What really got me is how easily manipulated lemmy/reddit users were the second time they tried to ban it. Tiktok sent out a notification telling their users they were voting for the ban and offering to help them find their local representatives if they wanted to call them and object to it. As they should that's how democracy is supposed to work isn't it? Immediately they got flooded with calls from people like me telling them that we didn't want the ban. Also immediately, the media started to spin it as a bunch of "vulnerable" teenagers and elderly people were forced or tricked into calling in their confusion... And PEOPLE BELIEVED IT. Just ate it right up. Crazy.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah that was crazy. They asked people to lobby for them, as other companies have done, and suddenly they're brainwashing our youth. Every time this comes up I feel like I'm taking crazy pills just from the sheer pressure of people saying TikTok is malware/spyware/directly controlled; but the evidence they point to is always weak at best. It's like they think TikTok is the Chinese version of the black helicopter secret organization.

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