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[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 85 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I saw a post where someone was listing the reasons Texas would do better as an independent country, they were talking about its economy, freedoms, whatever...

And the fact that it has "warm water ports", which is a hot button topic for one country and pretty much nobody else...

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

Russia is trying to export her Ukraine debacle to North America. Anyone calling for secession, national divorce or any other dissolution of the United States is a Russian asset. If Trump is too explicitly Russian for you, you can fall back onto any of the other neo-confederate suckers the GOP has teed up in their matryoshka primary

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Those warm water ports aren't going to do much good if they can't get out of the Gulf.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

Specifically phrasing it as “warm water ports” definitely points towards Russia, but port access is an issue for many countries. Especially for landlocked countries, but even some countries with a coastline have few locations suitable for a port. In modern times we can dig artificial ports, but this costs a ton of money that often has to be financed with debt.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As someone who has been dealing with Russian propaganda, it works in one of two ways:

Way I: divide and divide

  1. Find an issue that divides your enemy.

  2. Amplify fringe voice on the issue, make the most divisive element into the most vocal one.

  3. Once the fringe becomes more popular, amplify the opposing voice to grant legitimacy to the fringe elements.

  4. Watch the fireworks.

Notable examples: environmental movements in the west, antivax, Black/Blue Lives Matter

Way II: post modernist bullshit

  1. We are maybe right

  2. We are maybe wrong

  3. You can't trust us

  4. You can't trust them

  5. You can't trust anyone or anything

  6. Nothing can be true or can ever be verified

Harder to point at examples, but if anything becomes an issue that's talked about you will see a lot of articles that talk a lot and say little to muddy the waters and make the public doubt the truth.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

I read ‘The Future is History’ by Masha Gessen and it’s all about Way II. They lay it out in sharp detail via interviews with Russians of all ages. It was eye opening.