PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES

joined 1 year ago

Anyway, maybe it wouldn't hurt so much if you weren't trying to read my mind without consent. No means no, but you didn't even ask. No wonder you're in pain, you tried to delve inside my mind and I kicked you back out.

[โ€“] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm neurodivergent in a lot of different ways, and every one of them reduces the efficacy of neurotypical empathy. That sensation you're experiencing right now from talking to me is the same way neurotypical people feel when they talk to you. No wonder neurotypicals are so ableist to autistics, talking to us causes them pain. But it's still not right for them to demand we think like them, and it's still not right for you to demand I think like you. What we have to learn is how to coexist together.

And any coexistence we reach isn't going to involve always assuming we can read minds effectively. It's just an unrealistic standard.

[โ€“] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not a fetishist or an ally, I'm a gay. I'm gay for people who share my gender identity. Also I've never been on Beehaw

What's up with this heteronormativity? You think everyone who's attracted to fat enbies is a cishet person? Jesus Christ.

Cool, my new username is defusing hostile situations

[โ€“] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well that's a tremendous amount of faith in your ability to read other people's minds. And given you make no distinction between reading the minds of neurotypicals and autistics, I'd bet good money that you're frequently wrong when you try to read autistic minds. Which would make your actions towards autistic people frequently cruel.

Well see, sealioning is feigning ignorance, and it's a simple fact that bigots really are that ignorant. I've never met anyone who understood progressive issues and still disagreed, except for amoral people who chose to have little investment and wouldn't bother to engage in sealioning. This idea you're proposing that there are people who pretend to be ignorant doesn't make any sense to me. If they are acting like foolish bigots, I choose to believe them.

[โ€“] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I argue with fascists, exclus, medicalists, and sexists all the time and I've never met a sealion. But I have met neurotypical people who expect their sense of cognitive empathy to work on neurodivergent people, and then project all sorts of BS onto them for having a different opinion. IME that term is a dogwhistle for ableism.

EDIT: Just looked up Beehaw's guidelines and apparently it's against the guidelines to accuse someone of sealioning so maybe Beehaw isn't so bad

[โ€“] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Sealioning is an accusation that rests on assuming someone else's intentions. You can't ever know for sure if someone is a sealion, because people aren't mind readers. I usually see sealioning accusations thrown by neurotypicals at autistic people, because they can't read our emotions like they're used to and that freaks them out and they assume hostile intent.

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