"May help" reads as though they're making it up on the spot
"might clean your chimney or something idk lol"
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"Idk lol" one of my favorite laissez faire responses of all time, especially after some heinous shirlt like burning batteries. "It hasn't been reported to hurt anyone yet but idk lol"
How would they have known, really? This was a real tip in the very early 1900s iirc, and back then everything gave you cancer or rotted one or more of your organs. We put asbestos, lead, and radium in literally everything.
It’s kind of a wonder that within 100 years, we managed to identify what things caused which cancer. Like at the time, your jaw would start rotting off and, looking for a cause, you could gesture broadly at everything.
No doubt, so much shit we have done has turned out later to be extremely detrimental to our health and environment. We just have done studies about gas appliances and found it has a noticeable effect on air quality and that's a long time using it.
I just think "idk lol" is hilarious. Kindof reminds me of the South Park BP "we're sorry" as he's naked on the polar bear rug.
Corporate fucky wuckies are funny to laugh about as a PR response to me. "We did a whoopsie doodle were sowwy"
I just think "idk lol" is hilarious.
Oh yeah, I totally agree. That was our whole philosophy for a while, coupled with a crow-like mentality of ‘shiny thing good!’
Styropyro has several videos on this kind of "tips" from way back, he found in a compilation book from that period, filled with tips and tricks like this.
This is nowhere near the wildest stuff in there and many of the tips in there scare even styropyro.
And if you know what he does on his youtube channel, you know that's a feat.
Got a link?
Thanks!
No problem! I actually just got done watching all four of them lol. The multicolored coal in the fourth video was definitely the coolest thing. He managed to make a coal look like bismuth
I like to entertain the kids with a good old fashioned battery fire. Sometimes we breakout the mercury for a little hands on fun!
Obviously a bad idea but is there any truth to it?
yeah the colors are pretty cool
I can't imagine that the relatively tiny amount of zinc in a flashlight battery would have any affect on the soot from a fireplace. As for the colors, it will totally do that, although you can also buy the little packs they make to throw in campfires if you want to avoid giving yourself cancer.
I’m not convinced those don’t give you cancer too
I'd give it a maybe. If we're talking about pure metallic colors like when you burn copper its green, probably safe. But anything can come with additives including Lead or other heavy metals.
I mean don't huff the smoke, for starters
But that’s how you get the reeeeally fun colours!
I can’t imagine that the relatively tiny amount of zinc in a flashlight battery would have any affect on the soot from a fireplace
That's why you would want to start by dumping a huge box of batteries in the fire.
The first flashlight batteries were entirely zinc casings because it was the negative electrode.
They had a carbon rod (anode) and manganese oxide wrapper and were filled with ammonium chloride electrolyte.
Burning the ammonium chloride might have been the most dangerous part, not sure if that could release chlorine gas or not, but probably not with most fires.
Zinc fumes alone are pretty terrible to breath though. Welders can get sick for a couple days if they weld galvanized steel without cleaning it well. Supposedly drinking milk helps the symptoms, but I’ve avoided it so far.
several grams isnt tiny amount. zinc is, like it or not, a toxic heavy metal, sure, not as toxic as cadmium or thallium, but it can and will fuck up several things if released
and then you have batteries containing nickel, mercury, cadmium, lithium, lead,
Oh sure, I wasn't implying it would be safe, just that a few grams of it isn't gonna do jack shit to prevent soot buildup like the image implies.
I don’t know much about batteries, but by a relatively tiny amount, are you talking about today’s batteries or those from 100+ years ago when this tip was published?
Those would have been D batteries, most likely. I also don’t know how much zinc was in those, how much zinc is too much to burn, or if the composition of batteries was the same then as now. Rather curious about all this. Also I was taught batteries can explode in fire – was that a myth? Any battery experts in the chat?
As far as I can tell, the zinc itself wouldn't be particularly harmful (at least, not moreso than inhaling any other metal vapors). The nasty stuff would be manganese dioxide, which is a main component in zinc-carbon, zinc-chloride, and alkaline batteries. Generally, non-rechargable batteries won't "explode" in a fire, but they will puncture and leak chemicals everywhere, which isn't great. Lithium batteries, on the other hand, will absolutely explode and should be kept far away from anything that could damage them.
now that i'm thinking about it: not zinc, but maybe manganese. if you add a little of ferrocene to diesel, it'll burn (ie on a wick) without soot. ferrocene here works as a source of small amounts of very fine iron oxide particles, which catalyze burning of soot. manganese could work like this, but this works only if you provide enough air in the first place
the fact that this also works for rocket fuels made ferrocene a highly watched substance in cold war (alternative is very fine iron oxide - but you need more of it. this is used in space shuttle solid fuel)