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    [–] skibidi@lemmy.world 5 points 52 minutes ago (3 children)

    I love Linux, but it isn't ready.

    Two weeks ago my side mouse buttons started working (they require Logitech software on Windows, wasn't expecting them to work). Last week they stopped. This week they work again.

    Is this major? Not at all. Would it drive my mother-in-law into a rage rivaling that of Cocaine Bear? Absolutely. Spare me from the bear, keep Linux for the tinkerers.

    [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

    they require Logitech software on Windows

    This seems more like a logitech issue than a linus issue.

    [–] skibidi@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

    The issue isn't that they didn't work, as I said I wasn't expecting them to when I bought the mouse.

    The issue is their behavior has started changing with updates. I don't mind, but I'm a tinkerer. My wife, my MiL, most of my friends, absolutely do not want to deal with an inconsistent computer experience.

    Different definitions of 'ready' I guess. Been using primarily Linux for years, so it was 'ready' for me back then - but nothing has changed in the mean time that would change my recommendation for people who just want a boring stable computer.

    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

    Was the logitech mouse not supported by libratbag (backend of Piper)?

    [–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

    What distro are you on? I've been out of Linux for like 3 months now but never had issues with my mouse randomly changing behavior in the year or so prior to that. Whether they work or not is up in the air, but random behavior changes seems like a weird practice

    [–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 14 minutes ago

    I tried switching to linux like 10 years ago, but then, all the games i played didn't work. I tried switching again a month ago, but my cpu (i honestly don't remember) wasn't compatible. I watched youtube videos for a workaround, and that was way above my paygrade, because i'm worried i'm gonna skullfuck my computer by changing random ini files because a youtuber said so. I tried it on the laptop and i kinda just didn't work either for a diffrent reason. I don't care as much about my laptop, so i'll try again. As much as i hate windows, and i really really do, you hit a button and it's installed.

    [–] silverlose@lemm.ee 17 points 1 hour ago (8 children)

    I used to think I could just stick to macOS. But I don’t trust the USA and by extension, I don’t trust Apple.

    Switching to Linux isn’t a choice anymore. It’s a requirement for freedom.

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Yeah, Apple will just cave when necessary. Honestly, even if the USA is removed from the equation, nobody is really safe from any government or corporation. We're only in better and worse condition because no one has done the unthinkable yet. The UK online safety bill, Signal's threat to leave Sweden, France busting activists using Swiss VPN. If you can't host it yourself, secure it yourself, rebuild it yourself, you can't trust businesses and governments to do these things for you in the long run.

    Hell, it's starting to feel a lot less like freedom and more about the ability to hide, even if you're doing nothing wrong, because someone may eventually decide that what you're doing was wrong.

    Encrypting your chats to keep them from being sold/mined for government oversight? ILLEGAL!

    [–] silverlose@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

    I think you’re 100% correct.

    With all my Apple stuff I thought we were headed for a Star Trek federation. Instead we’re getting a starship troopers federation 😞

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    [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 56 minutes ago

    You don't see how terrible Windows is until you've switched to another OS and need to interact with it again.

    The constant pop-ups, the ads everywhere, the settings hidden away.

    It really feels like your PC isn't yours.

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago) (1 children)

    Month and a half into using Mint Cinnamon... frankly it's hard to feel like I'm not still using Win10. What comes to mind immediately is that file management dialogs in apps are less consistent with how the file manager itself works, whereas in Windows it's all more uniform. But IMO that's very minor. Overall UX feels the same to me.

    Note: I am not a computer gamer so can't comment on how games work on Linux, and also I've used Ubuntu and BSD in the past. Just had Windows at home to be consistent with work. I retired several years ago and it still took me this long to switch over.

    [–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 1 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

    My first trial (after 2 months) was installing something that was not on the software manger. With installation instructions writen for Arch. That needed Python to work. It stops feeling like windows real quick then :-)

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

    I felt that way when I tried to get setup on Windows to do Python programming on Arduino. In fact I gave up. Yesterday when I installed GIMP 3.0 on Mint it took a minute of research to decide which thing to download, but it turned out that Flatpak is now installed on Mint by default so I just clicked on the Flatpak download and then opened it, and boom, painlessly installed in seconds.

    But another difference between Mint and Windows for me is uploading code to microcontrollers with the Arduino IDE. On Windows it was always a crapshoot - the IDE failing to connect to a COM port or not seeing a COM port at all. On Mint it's pure smooth sailing.

    [–] menemen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    Linux was awesome 15 years ago. They probably just had driver problems. Those used to be much worse.

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago) (1 children)

    In the command-line-only world of the 80s I thought Unix was awesome already!

    [–] menemen@lemmy.world 2 points 28 minutes ago
    [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    Hey I've got them beat I've never tried Linux!

    (I need to though, I really do.)

    [–] Martj9@lemm.ee 1 points 58 minutes ago

    Last time I tried was last autumn. It didn't go well (again). I try regularly because computer OS is pretty much the last thing I have to switch to get rid of spytech. I suppose I'm not skilled enough, but it's not fair to suppose that people don't switch to linux on pc because they're lazy, or ignorant, or bad or things like that.

    [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

    I think once Valve polishes SteamOS for desktop environments there will be actual largescale migration.

    [–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

    Will ValveOS be useful for anything besides playing games?

    [–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    I thought the holdup was the graphics drivers (Nvidia mostly) not the de. Normal desktop mode with KDE works fine on my steamdeck.

    [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 45 minutes ago

    Fair point. But even so I think SteamOS has the most viable potential to achieve something like a 5-10% adoption rate that could get entities like nVidia to pay more attention.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Only a small fraction of people use Steam so I don't see that happening.

    [–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 48 minutes ago

    Maybe. I just mean once(if) there becomes an OS that reliably runs Steam and the games on Steam, there will be a viable alternative to Windows for a significant population of users.

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