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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

First of all, we’re not getting jack shit: capitalists in the military-industrial complex are. And second of all, that’s not how US federal taxes work.

Edit: And third of all, Ukraine isn’t getting any of this for free but as lend-leases which their people will be paying off for generations while living under neoliberal austerity measures.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We're getting dead invader trash.

That's a bargain, and we're buying more.: )

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you lot actually wanted to kill invaders, you'd wipe out your own government before worrying about other countries.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You know, it's funny, russia actually put bounties on dead American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Figure they need a chance to see how it's really done :)

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The US delivers X dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine. In most cases, this is used weaponry that would otherwise be held in a depot waiting for WW3 or desposed of. The US is not taking new taxpayer money for this. Instead older weapons paid for by taxpayers to counter Russian agression...are used to counter Russian agression. Newer weapons like Patriot and Himars are donated but the US gains valuable information from the battlefield in exchange.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I guarantee you that every single weapon sent to Ukraine will be replaced by a new one to rust in the depot, at the tax payers expense. That's the whole point of the Military Industrial Complex; to sell weapons to the government.

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

The American government is not giving Ukraine bags of money. They are giving them weapons. These weapons were made by American companies. All of the money spent on these weapons was either spent years ago, or remains in the American economy. The only thing that is moving is metal, plastic, explosives, etc. Money is being pumped into the defense industry, which you would think would make conservatives happy.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

In total, America's pumped nearly $25 billion of non-military aid into Ukraine's economy since the invasion began – and you can see it working at the bustling farmers market on John McCain Street in central Kyiv. The late senator is revered in Ukraine because he pushed the U.S. government to start sending arms to the country after Russia first invaded – back in 2014.

Good to hear that Ukraine is just as enamored with American fascists as it is with European ones.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Hungry, mostly

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


These are U.S.-made Bradley fighting vehicles… steel-clad behemoths hidden beneath the canopy, in a makeshift workshop that's difficult for Russian drones to spot.

American rocket launchers are now reaching deep into russian-occupied ukraine… and the Patriot air defense system is shielding millions of Ukrainian civilians from airstrikes.

In total, America's pumped nearly $25 billion of non-military aid into Ukraine's economy since the invasion began – and you can see it working at the bustling farmers market on John McCain Street in central Kyiv.

The late senator is revered in Ukraine because he pushed the U.S. government to start sending arms to the country after Russia first invaded – back in 2014.

That may be true now, but a report from the Pentagon's Inspector General last year found the U.S. government was unable to monitor weapons transfers in the early months of the war, in part because the American embassy's staff was evacuated.

An American hotline for Ukrainians to report misuse of assistance from USAID saw a tenfold increase when these posters went up across the country earlier this year… American officials are now investigating four criminal cases involving non-military aid… and 170 Ukrainian government officials – including high-ranking military officers – have been charged in corruption cases so far this year, for crimes like embezzlement and accepting bribes.


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