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Western support for Ukraine as it defends against Russia has globally significant consequences, Polish President Andrzej Duda said Tuesday, urging Kyiv’s backers to remain steadfast.

“It is about making sure that Russia is not able legally to forcefully shift the borders in Europe,” Duda told CNN’s Jake Tapper in an interview from the United Nations headquarters in New York.

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[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is exactly what I don't understand about people who want peace in Ukraine as soon as possible and at all costs: capitulation for the sake of short-term peace endangers long-term peace.

If we globally set the precedent that you can invade whomever you want and win just because you have nukes, that makes for a vastly more dangerous world. Every country with nukes will suddenly be more willing to go all imperialist, and all the countries without nukes will want to have them as a guarantee against invasion. And I don't know about y'all, but a world with way more nukes in way more hands is way more dangerous.

Plus, Putin has shown he'll keep on invading neighbors so long as he can get away with it. Delivering a crushing defeat to Russia and specifically Putin is the only way to achieve a more lasting peace.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

No but you see for something to be imperialism it has to come from the imperialist region of the world. When Russia is doing it it's only sparkling aggression.

That aside imperialism is supposed to benefit the economy while Russia's has been going to the shitter. Checkmate, liberal, I'm very smart.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Europe is treating putin exactly the same way they treated hitler. It's an entire continent of people who never learn. What's next; is germany going to go through belgium to invade france again?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one fucking thing I agree with Duda on. Fuck the PIS for the majority though

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

We are definitely in "Worst guy you know just made a good point" territory on this one.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Western support for Ukraine as it defends against Russia has globally significant consequences, Polish President Andrzej Duda said Tuesday, urging Kyiv’s backers to remain steadfast.

“It is about making sure that Russia is not able legally to forcefully shift the borders in Europe,” Duda told CNN’s Jake Tapper in an interview from the United Nations headquarters in New York.

“This is the guarantee of peace in the future, also for the United States.” Poland and Ukraine share a lengthy border, an area where the war resonated fiercely on Tuesday after Russian drones struck warehouses in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv.

Both leaders took the podium in New York on Tuesday morning, as the United Nations General Debate got underway.

Poland has been an ally of Ukraine since the Russian invasion, taking in more than a million Ukrainian refugees and leading the way in urging NATO partners to send more military supplies to Kyiv.

But the US is also closely monitoring its ongoing security assistance to Kyiv, as a growing number of Republicans call for more oversight into how the money is being used and question the wisdom of spending billions of dollars on its defense.


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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I misread and had a Bill & Ted moment. Anyway, party on Polish President Dude.

[–] Arrakis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Polish President Dude gets a public holiday named after him, would it be Duda Day?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well that's just like your opinion, man.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago