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A Gallup poll shows 62% of Americans believe the government should ensure universal healthcare coverage—the highest support in over a decade.

While Democratic backing remains strong at 90%, support among Republicans and Independents has also grown since 2020.

Public frustration with the for-profit healthcare system has intensified following the arrest of a suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, reportedly motivated by anger at the industry.

Recent controversies, including Anthem’s rollback of anesthesia coverage cuts, and debates over Medicare privatization highlight ongoing dissatisfaction with the system.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It's because they don't understand how the system works. Most people I know who are against it always go straight to "how could we pay for it". Not understanding that countries that do it work directly with the manufacturers of the medicine and hospitals so they get much better rates. 2022 showed 6500 per person for full coverage in Canada. 12,500 per person in the U.S.... with no coverage for the most part.

We know some Republican candidates know this as well, which is why Desantis promised lower health care costs in Florida by cutting a deal with Canada to import their lower cost drugs by trying to skirt buying them from the companies the are giving tax breaks to and not addressing.

Years later... No drugs have been shipped from Canada and no deals were settled because Canada doesn't want to ship their drugs to Florida and have shortages.

Much like an insurance company can say, I'm only going to pay $150 for that MRI instead of the $1,600 quoted, the government can do the same, and instead of lining the pockets of middlemen, it comes back as savings to the people. In general I believe I saw if we implemented a plan like Canadas, the average American would save 20% on their income taxes, and have full coverage. Meaning no longer having co-pays, deductibles, out of network doctors, etc. etc.

To me it just says, if you want further specialists outside of the ones provided, you can pay for them just like you do now. And the government could pitch in only the cost that they would pay towards a standard patient procedure.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

"Medicare for all" became a slogan because it's insanely more efficient than private healthcare. And we'll pay for it with taxes, the same way we pay for anything. But if your taxes do go up, it will be by less than you were paying previously, so people are still saving money. They can only use the most reductive and cliche arguments because the evidence is all against them. A public health plan would be cheaper and provide more care.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m wondering if this is like the British NHS and reports that “NHS pays 5 gazillion pounds for ” and the reality is we’re paying a fiver, or something.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Over 17% of our GDP goes to healthcare. Around 4.5 trillion dollars a year last I saw.

$4,500,000,000,000. And the people pay out of pocket still for most everything they need.

For reference, we pay more money than any other country besides China makes in an entire year.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, you’re done for. You’re paying more than if you had something like the NHS.