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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 105 points 3 months ago (3 children)

See where it gets them? It gets them right where we are now, with them on the precipice of turning the country over into a russian style dictatorship with billionaire oligarchs and their bought politicians running little fiefdoms?

Have you not being paying attention to how fucking enthusiastic a not-insignificant chunk of the country is for fascism and enshrining their teams power as dominate and eternal?

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

tldr: Stop being blind in your tolerance. Start calling everything you see that is unjust and malicious out. Your freedom probably depends on it

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You make a fair point. I do think there are signs the democrats and progressive are finally seeing that they need to play hardball. Amendments are a long play, and if the democrats have “candidate x thinks Clarence Thomas should be able to go on million dollar vacations in exchange for his vote on the Supreme Court” to smack every republican with for the next decade or so, it makes winning the necessary states a real possibility.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

The issue here isn't that the Democratic Party isn't playing hardball. The issue is that while the Dems are playing Baseball, the Republicans are playing Blernsball, and the blue continues to lose points and players due to following the old ruleset. The worst thing though is Team Blue has the better players. We have the home run strikers. We have down-the-line pitchers. Left, center, AND right field golden gloves. Our team are winners by any measure of the old system.

We're just playing a wholly different type of game now.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The point is to pull the cloak off and get bigger wins in the future to get the reforms through. There's enough people who still don't know what's really going on

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So the article admits that Democrats aren't just relying solely on rhetoric, they have 2 bills needing to be voted on. It even goes so far as to call out the actual problem within the Democrat party, Manchin and Sinema, for flip flopping about what they support and don't support: either HR1, the John Lewis voting rights act, and/or removing/adjusting the filibuster.

But it suggests that if Democrats just lean on them a little bit, they'll cave.

....

Right. Let's blanket blame the Democrats for being the reason nothing in the the house passes and is currently R220-D213, and nothing leaves the senate and is currently D49-R49, minus the 2 above.

We need to call out the actual reasons much more, and much louder.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Exactly. The Democrats should have ended the filibuster when they could have.