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Telegram founder and CEO alledges signal has backdoors, they don't provide reproduceible builds, etc. (lemm.ee)

submitted 6 months ago by clot27@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Here's what he said in a post on his telegram channel:

🤫 A story shared by Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter, uncovered that the current leaders of Signal, an allegedly “secure” messaging app, are activists used by the US state department for regime change abroad 🥷

🥸 The US government spent $3M to build Signal’s encryption, and today the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build its own encryption protocols that would be independent of government interference 🐕‍🦺

🕵️‍♂️ An alarming number of important people I’ve spoken to remarked that their “private” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt about their encryption, Signal’s typical response is “we are open source so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a trick 🤡

🕵️‍♂️ Unlike Telegram, Signal doesn’t allow researchers to make sure that their GitHub code is the same code that is used in the Signal app run on users’ iPhones. Signal refused to add reproducible builds for iOS, closing a GitHub request from the community. And WhatsApp doesn’t even publish the code of its apps, so all their talk about “privacy” is an even more obvious circus trick 💤

🛡 Telegram is the only massively popular messaging service that allows everyone to make sure that all of its apps indeed use the same open source code that is published on Github. For the past ten years, Telegram Secret Chats have remained the only popular method of communication that is verifiably private 💪

Original post: https://t.me/durov/274

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[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"an alarming number of important people" is the source. That's more than enough, right?

[–] rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

im gonna assume ur joking. its hard to tell sarcasm on the internet.

obviously i would like an actual source like at least one of those "important" ppl talking abt what happened to them

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 8 points 6 months ago

😂. Of course I'm joking. That claim is bullshit. Hey I know a guy who sold a bridge, and he's wealthy now. Source: trust me, he told me.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

read: "all my rich white friends"

[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 6 points 6 months ago

“One rich dude I met once at a dinner party. Totally legit. “

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 5 points 6 months ago

"Who work for Telegram"