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What are we trying to be helpful about, exactly? Nearly 20k dead over the course of a couple months is plenty indiscriminate.
Where did you get that 20k figure?
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-many-palestinians-have-died-gaza-war-how-will-counting-continue-2023-12-06/
From a few days ago.
I like how I get downvoted just for asking for a source. That article has mixed feelings about the reliability of the 20k estimate, but even if it's only half that, it's a lot of dead civilians.
The problem faced by the IDF is in fighting an insurgent force that deliberately embeds itself into the civilian population of a very densely-populated area with shoddy building quality. There's basically no way to fight Hamas without innocent Palestinians getting caught in the crossfire. I do think Israel has made its point and am glad that most of the world is pushing for a ceasefire now.
I didn't downvote you, for the record.
True.
In any other situation where a group was using civilians as hostages like this, we would call bombing the hostages as a first resort psychotic. This is just as true for Israel.