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[–] doofer_name@feddit.de 74 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I think the craziest thing is, that the survey starts at 50$. They just assume that must be the minimum prize everyone is ok with.

Lunatics…

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] doofer_name@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Seems like they’ve got experience..

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

What...? That's 20$ short of the whole game...

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

$50 is, like, a week of median per-capita household income.

[–] kaosof@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Man, things are a LOT worse in the US than the media makes you believe if the median income is $2600 a year.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They ain't getting a dollar or of me. Didn't buy D4, what a toxic, problematic company. I miss the classic Blizzard I grew up with, but that comany, it's talent and passion died in '08.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

After everything that's come out about their work culture and the naked cash grab micro transactions games they are making now, I'm sorta baffled by those still buying Blizz.

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Did the blizzard people start a new company?

They must've gone on to something better.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's been a few studios from former Blizzard employees. Just yesterday I got an update about Stormgate which is being made by Frost Giant Games. There's also Dreamhaven, Gas Giant Games, and notorious studios.

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[–] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I've always known blizzard to be like this, although I didn't really game until around 2010.

The first thing that comes to mind was/is the World of Warcraft subscription cost that still doesn't include all of the expansions. A base subscription is almost $200 CAD/year alone. They are also now selling mounts at $32 CAD each. Personally, especially if I was paying $200 a year, I wouldn't want to be pushed to pay even more money for content.

Part of me kind of wishes that I could have seen the era you're talking about.

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[–] Iapar@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you know the names of the people who made what you like? Maybe if you follow them and not the company brand you find what "died".

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

I’m hoping the collective answer is: “stop smoking crack”.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who is playing Diablo 4? Especially this year.

I mean, I checked it out at launch, thought it was fine, didn't even finish the main campaign, moved on to the other million great games that came out the past few months. Is this game still relevant?

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm playing season two. It's quite decent, a good game for me to decompress. TBH I played pre-season until WT4 and stopped at level 79. This season is much more streamlined and I'm currently on level 75 after 1/3 of the time played vs my pre-season char. I'll give Last Epoch a whirl after beating all the endgame bosses.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. D3 took a while to click for me, too, and it only did once they turned it into basically an idle game or digital bubble wrap. D4 felt a bit more MMO-y and I wasn't there for it, but I always figured they'd get to making it more D3-ish eventually and I could check it out again then.

And then the best year of gaming in a decade happened and I forgot D4 even existed. But I don't resent anybody who stuck with it. I bet I would have given it more of a go under different circumstances.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I feel ya on the MMOishness of D4. When you're doing an event and all of a sudden a 100 level guy comes in and destroys everything in 0.5 second it can ruin the immersion somewhat.

Yea, I only played D4 again after finishing Starfield, BG3, AC6 (till NG++), and AW2 (definitely will play again when the NG+ dropped).

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Rant

I've always been of the "vote with your dollar" or "If you don't like it, don't buy it" mentality until recently. Now it seems like the heavy concentration of market power into a few companies is spurring on the continued development of "pricing innovations".

Remember when they said digital distribution would make the games cheaper and they would pass the savings down to us? (surprise that was a lie). That's just the cost of innovation.

Diablo 4 isn't a "bad game" but for games as a service that contains microtransactions, it certainly isn't a game worth a $100 expansion pack. They didn't even include the game with the collectors edition. Sell the collectibles without the game for a premium! Get paid twice! Innovation!

As more and more disappointments land face first on the concrete floor of the empty swimming pool surrounded by apathetic"entitled " gamers they still will not learn from their mistakes because the money says otherwise. They would rather go out of business then sell you a product you actually want to buy. That's the cost of innovation.

I don't know if this is the right place to say this. I urge everyone to collect physical copies of games, back them up, share them and archive them. We're never getting back what we've lost no matter how much we're willing to pay for it.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago

anyone who didn't uninstall battlenet after the Blitzchung nonsense gets the DLC they fucking deserve

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

Who wants to pay $100 to run into a thousand cellars?

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

After reading a story about bg3 patch 5 adding an epilogue set 6 months after the games end with over 3500 new lines of dialogue, new cutscenes which is based on the thousands of decisions you made in your playthrough and different for everyone and its just a patch and its free. This makes me so mad that blizzard have become this shit hole of a company.

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[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What?

First of all, after the shitshow that was the launch of D4, that's just hilarious. S2 is certainly better than the start, but it is no holy grail that magically fixed everything.

Secondly, you're dreaming if you think a DLC is worth more than the base game.

And finally, I like how they're "asking" players if they'd "be okay" with it. Are you telling me that if the majority of the player base said "NO!" they'd actually listen? If there is anyone who believes that, well I've got a bridge in Sanctuary to sell you.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depending on how extreme the NO! answers are, they may delay it or split the 100$ DLC in 2 50$ DLC, which you both have to get to actually play the game.

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[–] XbSuper@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'll play D4 if and when it's free. Otherwise I'm not interested.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That would probably make me less likely to play it, because then there'd be even more MTX crap. I'm just not interested at any price.

[–] XbSuper@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but it won't cost me anything to try at that point, and if it sucks, so be it.

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[–] HonorIsDead@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Diablo 4 isn't that good of a game and not even close to the best arpg. I admittedly got hosed on buying it at launch and am not giving them more money. Why would I spend over 150$ total to get the equivalent of 1 mediocre game assuming they fix all the bs. Definitely regret the purchase at this point, and if a fixed version is going to be locked behind absurdly priced dlc in the future I feel like I got scammed twice.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I’d like them to release enough content to make me feel like I didn’t waste my original purchase price, maybe I just am wanting for Diablo 1/2 days :(

[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Diabo 2 remaster is still really good

Other than that, il just wait for poe 2

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Vomit. Blizzard gets worse and worse. Good ole capitalism.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

Ahh, this must be where the laid off Bungie employees went to.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha... Fuckin idiots.

I swear they're spiking the water with acid down in silicon valley, how can so many companies be making so many dumbass decisions all at the same time?

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[–] Iapar@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

I am okay with $5000 DLC because i don't play this bitch-ass game.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Blizzard: Would you be okay with a 100$ DLC?

Me: Sure, I stopped buying your overpriced crap years ago :D

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

70 for a game that doesn't feel finished wasn't ok.

[–] XbSuper@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Agreed, do what you want, I'm not buying regardless.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

I won't even buy the shitty $70 game because the beta was fucking terrible.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

$120 is my yearly budget for games.

[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago
[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Absolutely not

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless it comes with Diablo V then hell no

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[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 3 points 11 months ago

I was willing to pay at maximum €15 and that was already pushing it for me.

I bought the ultimate edition because diablo is the franchise I spent most of my time on when gaming. But played more d2r than D4 since it released.

I'll come back to it later to check it out if it's better.

[–] corus_kt@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can't be that they hired business and psychology people only to come up with such a retarded cost. My guess would be they intentionally leaked a $100 figure so they could price a barebones dlc at $50 and go 'see, we listened!'

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Eh... no, almost certainly not.

What they did, if you read the piece, was to ask people what it would take to justify a long list of price points, from 50 to 100. Which is a good practice for a survey question like that, because you want to know at what point people start to say "there's nothing you could do to justify a price point of 70" so you know where the breaking point is.

It doesn't even mean that they'll price it at whatever people say is the breaking point. They could see that the sweet spot is somewhere else. But if you're asking people to put something on a scale you need the scale to be bigger than the range of valid responses or you can't see what people are saying.

Deceptive headlines are deceptive.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

... which will be stuffed with real-money charges anyway, because oink oink.

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