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RIP, goodhearted woman.

America, if you'd vote for change, this wouldn't be necessary. The US is the only developed country where this is commonplace.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 108 points 11 months ago (3 children)

America, if you’d vote for change, this wouldn’t be necessary. The US is the only developed country where this is commonplace.

In order for us to vote for change, change has to be on the ballot.

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In order for us to vote for change, change has to be on the ballot.

Moreover, the ballot itself must change.

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

Can't echo this enough. Find your local RCV group and volunteer

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but still. To me, one party wants as much of this to change as possible. The other one wants to take us as far back toward the 1950s as possible.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago

One party wants to take us back to the 1950s, the other party pretends to want change. Both parties want the status quo. They're the ruling class and they want we peons to stay in our place and produce wealth for them. There's not a Left and a Right anymore, there's center-right and deep-right.

Time and again, Democrats claim to want to help, but even when they are a majority, they always find a way to blame Republicans for their bills not getting passed. This is by design. They keep receiving votes because, "obviously, we're trying!" when in reality they don't want to risk their wealth any more than anyone else in the ruling class. They all live in a bubble outside of reality where they don't even have to think about or concern themselves with "tiny" problems like medical debt thanks to perks like their government health plan and voting for their own pay raises.

Every once in a blue, they dangle a carrot like the affordable care act, net neutrality, or the attempts to delete student loan debt, so they can keep voters coming back and voting D, but it's all just a contrived farce.

Unfortunately, now it's either voting for fascism or voting for the status quo, so for the preservation of the country, more will vote D, and the Democratic party will assume it is because We The People like their weak attempts at policy.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You're not wrong that the Republicans wanna go back to the 1850s nowadays. But Democrats campaign on Medicare for all and single payer with no intent to ever implement it. It's a popular idea, but would hurt their bottom line if they ever actually did anything about it.

And our system is rigged against anyone not running as either party, so...

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My guy 4 years took us from MC4A being fringe to every primary candidate having their own pitch for it from just doing medicare but without the age floor to complete abolition of private medicine.

The reason it hasn't happened yet is because the demographic that's most vocal for it is also the one that has to be dragged to the polls kicking and screaming to actually flipping vote for it.

[–] hydroxide@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Obama literally passed the best we've gotten in a while, and that was with Republicans blocking every possible detail they could. Stop trying to imply both sides are the same.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Holy shit that’s profound! Well responded!

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago

Another "orphan crushing machine". Add it to the pile.

[–] guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Incomprehensibly depressing. Everything about this should make us ashamed of ourselves as a species. Or we should just stop pretending that we value each other more than cash. Or at all actually.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Everything about this should make us ashamed of ourselves as a ~~species~~ country

Don't rope the rest of humanity into this. Most of the rest of us have got it figured out.

[–] guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Then why do the most of us let something like this happen. And while some countries have better healthcare there is still an enormous amount of suffering everywhere be it starvation, war, homelessness you name it. We have the means to be better but we don't do it.

[–] caboclo@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 11 months ago

still almost all cause by that same country we all know very well.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

not bad for a week after dying from cancer

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Separate sentences, though.

[–] tuxtey@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Honestly I'm glad you pointed that out, because my mind would not process that separately.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

/c/no-stop-it

[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Oh gee, why didn't I think about voting for change?

It's so obvious now that you put it that way

[–] JimboDHimbo@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry, but we as a country can't vote our way out of a paper bag. We're too caught up in division politics and general propaganda to make any leeway

[–] PhotoBobomb@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Constantly feels like we're losing the best of us. I can't imagine facing death and thinking, "How can I make a bunch of other people's lives easier?"

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do the economics work if one dollar can erase one hundred dollars of debt? Somehow profit is still made?

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can buy medical debt at a fraction of the face value. That's how these predatory debt collection companies make money.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's stopping people buying of their own debt? And why is money still being made?

You buy it in bundles. John Oliver did a segment if you want more information on the practice.

[–] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

AP is really nosediving. Malware ads and no cursory explanation of purchasing medical debt.

[–] Mammal@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are just as committed to this for-profit driven healthcare system as Republicans are. They're just a little bit more polite about it.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not really. There is at least a decent portion of Democrats in office that would love to at the very least offer a public option for health insurance. Unfortunately there are more than enough Democrats in office against the idea combined with all of the Republicans to block any sort of attempt at that or Medicare for All.

[–] Mammal@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

There were more than enough Democrats in Congress in 2008 to make that happen.

There are more than enough Democrats now to make it enough of an issue that it becomes part of the public conversation.

There are more than enough Democrats now that could make an internal party rule that prohibits Democrats from ever lobbying for pharmaceutical or insurance companies.

However, the Democratic Party is far more motivated to kneecap actual healthcare reforms than actually implement what they say they believe in.