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[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (16 children)

Very telling that your only assassination recommendation was zelensky and not putin. Followed up by only if trump wins? The only thing trump will do is shut off support to Ukraine because he's putins fucking tool, just like you apparently

[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org -5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (15 children)

Very telling that your only assassination recommendation was zelensky and not putin.

Because the last time I checked, it's Zelensky who for the whole duration of the conflict refuses any negotiation, not Putin. It's Zelensky who turned Ukraine into a mass prison. It's Zelensky whose regime kidnaps people on the streets and sends them to die.

Followed up by only if trump wins? The only thing trump will do is shut off support to Ukraine

That's your opinion and nothing more than that. He promised to end the war by forcing both parties to negotiate. But even if he "shuts off support to Ukraine" - this will be the best thing for Ukrainians that happened in the last 3 years. Without western support, Zelensky won't be able to terrorize Ukrainians anymore.

Turn on English subtitles here and enjoy an ex colonel of AFU (generally an extremely pro-Ukrainian guy btw if you watch his other videos, you can't claim this being a Russian propaganda ;-) ) talking about current anti-Ukrainian Ukrainian government turning Pokrovsk (and actually the rest of the country too) into a concentration camp: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXSB_WnYV0

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Why should the president of an invaded country have to negotiate with the invaders? They can leave and then it's all over.

Also it's for you to say only Ukraine is taking people off the street. Putins been throwing prisoners on the front line. He is notorious for locking up any vocal dissenter..... sooooo how are you not including him in this equation?

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Are you walking about the org that was known as Wagner? They aren't forced to fight. They do get incentives to fight that's for sure. They defeated the most hardcore nazis, which we openly support (azov batallion) in Bahkmut.

Why should the president of an invaded country have to negotiate with the invaders? They can leave and then it’s all over.

Are you serious? Do you even know why this war is happening? Ukraine, which we couped in 2014, was killing and still is killing ethnic Russians in the 2 independent republics FOR NO REASON. They also continually plot and execute acts of terrorism against Russia on I'd say a minimum, at least one act every two weeks. Their SBU (their version of CIA) was started by OUR CIA. The feds bragged about it on NYT.

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