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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (105 children)

It would be up to the people who live there to figure out how to run things. This is certainly not an argument for US to continue occupying them.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (103 children)

how is it an “occupation” when Hawaiians themselves voted to become a state by a 94+% majority?

On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of Hawaiʻi to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood and 5.7% opposed it. (source)

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (60 children)

from your own link

In 1897, over 21,000 Natives, representing the overwhelming majority of adult Hawaiians, signed anti-annexation petitions in one of the first examples of protest against the overthrow of Queen Liliʻuokalaniʻs government.[143] Nearly 100 years later, in 1993, 17,000 Hawaiians marched to demand access and control over Hawaiian trust lands and as part of the modern Hawaiian sovereignty movement.[144] Hawaiian trust land ownership and use is still widely contested as a consequence of annexation. According to scholar Winona LaDuke, as of 2015, 95% of Hawaiʻiʻs land was owned or controlled by just 82 landholders, including over 50% by federal and state governments, as well as the established sugar and pineapple companies.[144] The Thirty Meter Telescope is planned to be built on Hawaiian trust land, but has faced resistance as the project interferes with Kanaka indigeneity.[clarify][145]

If you think a referendum from 1959 fairly represents the interests of the native population then what else is there to say.

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Person is in bad faith and worse, smug. Hhit em with a PPB.

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