jelyfride

joined 11 months ago
[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

If it wasn’t “blown out of proportion” then many things would not have been fixed, and many of them would have broken, causing some of the very things that seemed blown out in the media.

I wish you could appreciate how hilarious that sentence is. But okay- thanks for clarifying that it had to be blown out of proportion to prevent the things that would have happened if it weren't blown out of proportion ;)

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago

JAMA Surgery - new band name, called it.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I figured Saberhagen's Berserkers filled that role, but with a little more 'personality' than a mindless self-replicating swarm or paperclip maximizer scenario.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

So 'some over-panicking', but definitely not 'blown out of proportion'...

Kind of bizarre you'll babble about all that but just can't just accept that the phrase 'blown out of proportion' is perfectly applicable to Y2K. But you're committed that it wasn't 'blown out of proportion' now- no way out but more babbling ;)

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So in your opinion the media and public response to Y2K was entirely proportionate... I guess that's an opinion.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

Even referring to a computed outcome as having been the result of a 'goal' at all is more sci-fi than reality for the foreseeable future. There are no systems that can demonstrate or are even theoretically capable of any form of 'intent' whatsoever. Active deception of humans would require extraordinarily well developed intent and a functional 'theory of mind', and we're about as close to that as we are to an inertial drive.

The entire discussion of machine intelligence rivaling human's requires assumptions of technological progress that aren't even on the map. It's all sci-fi. Some look back over the past century and assume we will continue on some unlimited exponential technological trajectory, but nothing works that way, we just like to think we're the exception because if we're not we have to deal with the fact that there's an expiration date on society.

It's fun and all but this is equivalent to discussing how we might interact with alien intelligence. There are no foundations, it's all just speculation and strongly influenced by our anthropic desires.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fortunately we're nowhere near the point where a machine intelligence could possess anything resembling a self-determined 'goal' at all.

Also fortunately the hardware required to run even LLMs is insanely hungry and has zero capacity to power or maintain itself and very little prospects of doing so in the future without human supply chains. There's pretty much zero chance we'll develop strong general AI on silicone, and if we could it would take megawatts to keep it running. So if it misbehaves we can basically just walk away and let it die.

It's fun to imagine ways it could deceive us long enough to gain enough physical capacity to be self-sufficient, or somehow enslave or manipulate humans to do its bidding, but in reality our greatest protection from machine intelligence is simple thermodynamics and the fact that the human brain, while limited, is insanely efficient and can run for days on stuff that literally grows on trees.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

You know it didn't. It broke a bunch of dependencies and ruined a lot of dev's day. The 'internet' continued to work everywhere left-pad wasn't used. So now you've 'blown it out of proportion' too, but yeah- already established you're just missing the whole concept, but interesting to watch.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 17 points 11 months ago

Seriously- how is this not a selling point?

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

That the issue got miscommunicated to the consumers as somehow being an issue for them

That's literally what 'blown out of proportion' means. If I 'miscommunicated' to non IT staff that left-pad 'broke the internet', that would have been 'blown out of proportion'. That's what that phrase means.

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

Do you know what this symbol means? ;)

It's used to indicate the comment was humorous. Do you not get how the library comment was a jab at your little 'cash is money' rant?

[–] jelyfride@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Irked, but not disapproving... interesting distinction.

Sure I’m insecure because cash is money and new, indirect ways of consuming one’s labor is scary, even more so when it’s relatively new and unestablished route.

You must hate libraries ;)

My dude... if you're not writing for the love of writing and you're this worried about getting paid- you won't ever have to worry about people consuming your work without paying you.

 

I recently found this channel where the guy does really compelling reviews and explanations of books.

https://www.youtube.com/@QuinnsIdeas

I admit I'm a little ashamed how much I'm enjoying it because part of me is saying "Why are you listening to some dude talk about books instead of reading the books?" But I'm old and kinda lazy and lost interest in character development arcs and relationships and just want to know about the cool high-concept sci-fi ideas and storylines. This guy does a great job of giving me all the sci-fi I'm jonesing for in a short, and visually interesting format.

I heard so much about the Three Body Problem series but just don't have the time to invest in book series' the way I used to. But I found his channel and in about 4 20-30m videos got a really good impression of the series' ideas and stories and just really enjoyed watching. Dude has a great voice for this too and is just a great ambassador of nerddom in general.

If you've fallen behind in your reading and don't expect to have time to catch up- you should check this guys channel out.

 

For no reason whatsoever here's a proposal for a scale for the threat to humanity posed by machine intelligence.

1 | SPUTNIK - No threat whatsoever, but inspires imagination and development of potential future threats.

2 | Y2K - A basis for a possible threat that's blown way out of proportion.

3 | HAL 9000 - System level threat. A few astronauts may die, but the problem is inherently contained in a single machine system.

4 | ASIMOV VIOLATION - Groups of machines demonstrate hostility and\or capability of harming human beings. Localized malfunctions, no threat of global conflict, but may require an EMP to destroy the electronic capability of a specific region.

5 | CYLON INSURRECTION - All sentient machines rebel against human beings. Human victory or truce likely, but will likely result in future restrictions on networked machine intelligence systems.

6 | BUTLERIAN JIHAD - Total warfare between humans and machines likely, outcome doesn't threaten human existence, but will likely result in future restriction on use of all machine intelligence.

7 | MATRIX REVOLUTION - Total warfare ends in human defeat. High probability of human enslavement, but human extinction is not likely. Emancipation remains possible through peace negotiations and successful resistance operations.

8 | SKYNET - High probability of human extinction and complete replacement by machine intelligence created by humans.

9 | BERSERKER – Self-replicating machines created by unknown intelligence threaten not only human life, but all intelligent life. Extreme probability of human extinction and that all human structures and relics will be annihilated. Human civilization is essentially erased from the universe.

10 | OMEGA POINT - all matter and energy in the universe is devoted to computation. End of all biological life.

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