The jewish community should have no issue condemning genocide given how deeply it has been touched by it. This doesn't seem difficult to me, but what do I know.
this post was submitted on 03 Jun 2024
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We typically don't. The conservative synagogues in my hometown were really concerned about the Darfur genocide; hosting fundraisers and awareness campaigns. They all had signs out front that said "Never Again...in Darfur" but when it comes to Palestinians, the Boomers are just SO rabid.
You're right; the Jewish community should do better and all the American Jews who send money and make major political donations should demand more, especially given our history.
I felt neutral towards Jewish folks prior to the recent gencocide being carried out by Israel. The response by Jewish activists to condemn genocide has shifted my feelings to neutral-positive. You're telling me Orthodox Jews living in Israel oppose zionism and are harrassed by Israeli fascists? Sounds like a people with a commendable spirit and culture to me.
You’re telling me Orthodox Jews living in Israel oppose zionism and are harrassed by Israeli fascists? Sounds like a people with a commendable spirit and culture to me.
You're thinking of the ultra-Orthodox Haredi. And they're... not pleasant people.
Even the unpleasant ones oppose mass murder, you say?
"Oppose mass murder" is a strong term. "Think Israel is an illegitimate state because of some theological stuff about it Not Being Time Yet(tm) but hate non-Jewish minorities and don't give a fig for dead Palestinians except insofar as the ongoing war might strip them of their long-standing exemption from Israeli military service"
I'm going to be honest with you, I don't really care what motivates them or really about the specific details you've decided I'm talking about. They don't have insitutional power in Israel, and the Orthodox Jews I saw being harrassed on video were flying palestinian flags. The point I was getting at is thay Jews who oppose Zionism and colonialism are a credit to their people.
They don’t have insitutional power in Israel,
The Ultra-Orthodox parties are literally part of the current ruling coalition dedicated to Palestinian genocide.
Jews? Progressive? Maybe the non-orthodox ones, but I have personal experience, from much of my life, of the opposite. They have schools that don't teach evolution or sex education, for fuck's sake.
Judaism has always been traditionalist and always ardently conservative.
This is one of my favorite pieces of protest/aspirational art. It takes two symbols that were created as nationalistic icons of parallel ethnic identify and struggle, co-opting them whilst respecting and corrupting each:
- Handala is shown unclamping his hands from behind his back, in embrace of the Jewish icon…
- Srulik who is humbled and an equal to Handala, as opposed to his normally wry, powerful and competent characterization. He is effaced as well, with both aligned looking towards a shared future.