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[–] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

While it is true that insane propaganda is off the charts, for example in my own country Australia we're chaining ourselves to the fading star of the usa and the UK militarily despite having:

  • different trade interests
  • different geopolitical interests
  • different cultural interests

all while the usa government tries it's hardest to undermine our economic policy, erase our culture, and distort our politics towards their own demended lines.

There is zero evidence the chinese government does not want to do the same. They have interfered in our media, our education systems, there has been stupid petty trade squabbles with both "sides" using us for their own ends.

When chinese diplomats speak to our media, even in excruciatingly fair interviews, the pattern is the same slimey deny deny deny and legal quibble that usa diplomats engage in. Their media is insanely critical of Australian life too.

There are no good guys in this power struggle and looking for one is childish thinking.

Even this article refuses to address the notion that the chinese government has ever conducted itself in a condemnable manner.

[–] falsem@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

As an American, I thought our cultures were relatively similar being both former British colonies. What different cultural interests are you referring to?

[–] imsodin@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not Australian or American, but hey it's the internet so why not voice second hand knowledge: I heard Aussies pride themselves on being (relatively) egaliatarian, despising individuals elevating themselves above others. Seems to me about as antithetical to US mentalitity as it goes :)

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

AU and USA share in a foundation belief that they are "classless societies." I think this is probably true of many ex-British colonies since class is such a dominant and suffocating aspect of British culture.

Australia, like the USA has severe inequality, and the rich there like to flaunt their wealth. A disproportionate number of the crypto grifters ended up being Aussie. And while Australia does have a better social welfare state than the US it is both 1) under attack and 2) was put together almost entirely by one socialist prime minister in 1975 who was taken out after only a few months by a coup.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I think this is probably true of many ex-British colonies since class is such a dominant and suffocating aspect of British culture.

Laughs in India

[–] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

A lot of the Aussies you'll chat to on the internet don't realise how recent there was heavy segregation even among people broadly considered white now.

If you look at the last names of powerful people even now you'll find that while they're general all white dudes Irish last names are underrepresented, despite being around as long as English ones. A lot of migrants from Greece/Italy/Poland etc were heavily sidelined too.

Lets not even get into treatment of native peoples and non white migrants cause we'll fucking be here all day.

This country is definitely heavily divided by class, last oecd report I read found 4 generation median time for bottom quartile income to next quartile up. That's bonkers.

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